In divided times, Gov. Cox prescribes passionate disagreement, minus contempt

NPR | By Sacha Pfeiffer,

Sarah Handel, Lauren Hodges, Natalie Winston

Published September 10, 2026 at 4:07 PM EDT

NPR's Sacha Pfeiffer talks with Spencer Cox, Republican governor of Utah, about his new book, Off Ramp, and his vision for peacemaking.

Sacha Pfeiffer

Correspondent, Investigations

Sarah Handel

Lauren Hodges

Lauren Hodges is a producer for All Things Considered.

Natalie Winston

Natalie Winston is the Executive Producer of Booking and Specials.